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 Post subject: Stoicism
PostPosted: October 19th, 2015, 8:10 am 
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Hello,

I am curious what people think about Stoicism. Is it considered an authentic tradition or as more of a subversion of Ancient/Platonic thought? As a living tradition it seemed to find natural roots in the late Republic and early Empire of Rome. It seems to have exhorted many good men to moral action through metaphysical and ethical argument, and it also seems like it had rituals that were based in a community of aspirants. None of these things are sufficient for being part of the authentic tradition, but I think that they are all necessary.

As a side note, I am curious about the figure of Socrates. Was is it he or Plato that had the insight which grew into the pagan metaphysical tradition, which later informed both Christian and Muslim thinkers? It seems that every school of ancient thought looked up to Socrates, from Platonists, to Stoics, to Epicureans, and even the skeptics. Does it seem as though Socrates initiated Plato into something that others who looked up to Socrates missed, or did Plato transform Socrates' teachings into something new (new, by a temporal and human standard)?

I look forward to your insights,
Brian


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